More rogue changes have been announced. Some good (Precision buff) some not so good (Relentless Strikes nerf). Personally I'm not too happy with this yet, (combat is slowly being turned into shit by blizzard) there's still a lot of changes that need to be made to put rogues on par with the other class changes. Stay of execution got removed which is quite lame vs warriors as well. Though, at least we now know that the combat tree will have the 1-2% physical damage buff for the raid which was discussed earlier. If you wish to play around with these new talent tree changes you can use this tree over at war-tools. Some sample specs (non theorycrafted): mutilate, combat, combat hemo. The rogue talents feel very much unfinished, especially combat and the high level tiers of the other two trees. I'd even drop off some suggestion talents for blizzard, but I doubt they'd reach the test team in time for the patch. I haven't got much time so I'll quote the entire post for your reading pleasure ;) ---- Gamnin Wrote: ---- Hello again, Here’s a quick update on some additional changes we’ve made over the weekend. Most of these, but not all, will be in the next beta build. General - Cloak of Shadows cooldown changed to 1.5 min. - Disarm Trap range increased to 20 yds, cast time reduced to 1 sec, now requires stealth. - (NEW – Level 75) Tricks of the Trade: The current party or raid member becomes the target of your Tricks of the Trade. The threat caused by your next attack and all actions taken for 6 sec afterwards will be transferred to the target. In addition, all damage caused by the target is increased by 15% during this time. 30 sec cooldown. (Surprise! :) Yes, this is the new group/raid utility ability. We haven’t put any stacking protection on it yet but we’ll need one type of solution or other to prevent the need for 5 rogue Trick rotations. Note also that you cannot use this ability on yourself.) Assassination - Vigor moved to Tier 3. - Relentless Strikes moved to Subtlety Tier 1, made 5 ranks for 4/8/12/16/20% chance. - Murder moved to Tier 6, now increases damage by 2/4%. - (NEW – Tier 7) Overkill: Abilities used while stealthed and for 6 seconds after breaking stealth cost 10 less energy. - Focused Attacks and Turn the Tables have swapped locations. - Master Poisoner moved to Tier 9, no longer increases chance to hit with poison attacks, now increases the critical hit chance of all attacks made against any target you have poisoned by 1/2/3% and reduces the duration of all Poison effects applied to you by 17/34/50%. (This does not stack with the Paladin talent Heart of the Crusader.) - Hunger for Blood duration increased to 30 seconds. Combat - Precision now also increases chance to hit with poison attacks by 1/2/3/4/5%. - Nerves of Steel will now reduce damage taken while stunned or feared by 15/30% rather than reducing duration. - Improved Sprint moved to Tier 4. - Blade Twisting now slows movement speed by 70%. - Mace Specialization now ignores 3/6/9/12/15% of target’s armor. - Throwing Specialization now also has a chance to interrupt target when Fan of Knives is used. - Unfair Advantage: Whenever you dodge an attack you strike back for 50/100% of your main hand weapon’s damage. - Stay of Execution removed, replaced with Blood Poisoning. - (NEW – Tier 9) Blood Poisoning: All physical damage caused to enemies you have poisoned is increased by 1/2%. - Prey on the Weak now increases critical strike damage of all attacks. - Killing Spree is the new name for Murder Spree and should be working much better very soon. Subtlety - Shadowstep will no longer be usable while rooted. - Elusiveness moved to Tier 3, now reduces cooldown of Cloak of Shadows by 15/30 sec. - Premeditation cooldown reduced to 20 sec. - Preparation no longer refreshes the cooldown to Premeditation. - Master of Deception reduced to 3 ranks. - Opportunity reduces to 2 ranks for 10/20%. - Camouflage reduced to 3 ranks for 5/10/15% speed and 2/4/6 sec off the cooldown of Stealth. - Initiative moved to Tier 4, increased to 33/66/100% chance. - Improved Ambush moved to Tier 4, reduced to 2 ranks for 25/50%. - Serrated Blades moved to Tier 3. - Wrongfully Accused replaced with Filthy Tricks. - (NEW – Tier 9) Filthy Tricks: Reduces the cooldown of your Tricks of the Trade and Distract abilities by 5/10 sec. - Slaughter from the Shadows now also reduces the energy cost of your Hemorrhage ability by 1/2/3/4/5. - Shadow Dance redesigned, now allows the use of Sap, Garrote, Ambush, Cheap Shot, Premeditation, Pickpocket and Disarm Trap regardless of being stealthed. Those abilities all gain a cooldown of 2 sec. Lasts 10 sec.